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rag and bone man.

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rag and bone man.
rag and bone man.
Photo: thomas anglesea
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Item #: 20703
This print is from an original painting by H.Walder.I don`t know if he was a local artise or that the painting is from an actual sreet in Wigan.I see at the bottom left of the print is the name of Smiths of Wigan.does anyone know?

Comment by: Roy on 18th May 2012 at 15:07

Yes Harry Walder was a Wigan artist and spent a lot of time painting Wigan scenes to what i think was an excellent standard.

Comment by: Mike (Calgary) on 18th May 2012 at 15:41

The easrliest example of "going green". I remember the call of the rag-and-bone man very well.

Comment by: Roy on 18th May 2012 at 16:43

Mike, they,re still calling yet, but they drive around in small flatback vans nowadays. Gone are the days of rewarding you for your rags etc, although i wouldn,t have much use for a donkey stone these days.

Comment by: Anoo on 18th May 2012 at 17:13

I live in Yorkshire now: we still have a rag and bone man with a very attractive horse-drawn cart. He still shouts "rag/bone", although I do not think he would take either of those: scrap metal appears to be what he is really after.

Comment by: dave marsh on 18th May 2012 at 19:33

I have a print of Wigan Millgirls at the top of Miry Lane by Walder.Its based on Crowe's original but still very good.I bought it at Bygone Times a few years ago.
I can remember siiting quietly on the lav at the bottom of the yard when suddenly someone would bawl 'rag bone' over the back gate ,used to put the wind up me.

Comment by: Loz on 19th May 2012 at 01:39

Or maybe to expel the wind?

Comment by: thomas anglesea on 19th May 2012 at 09:57

do you know what part of Wigan H.Walden came from and what year are we talking about?

Comment by: dave marsh on 19th May 2012 at 12:21

Worth looking at,Thomas is Eyre Crowe's 'Dinner Hour' on google or at Manchester Art Gallery.His painting is dated 1874.My similar picture by H. Walder is the period earl 1900's.

Comment by: Mick on 19th May 2012 at 13:40

thomas anglesea - Harry Walder lived on either Brookhouse St or Spring St, off Darlington St East.
Unsure as to which, but close to Dickinson's bottlers.

Comment by: pat dobson formerly walker on 19th May 2012 at 18:20

i can still hear arthur kelly shouting rag bone up scholeshe lived in boyswell lane

Comment by: Cathy B on 20th May 2012 at 10:52

Harry Walder lived at 66 Darlington Street East

Comment by: panc on 20th May 2012 at 14:36

Why is this allowed ? It states "copywrite Smiths of Wigan "!!!!!!!!

Comment by: thomas anglesea on 20th May 2012 at 15:06

thanks for the info Cathy B,its not far from i live.i will look it up.

Comment by: thomas anglesea on 21st May 2012 at 09:44

Hi Dave Marsh,I did look up eyre crowe`s dinner hour on goodle,I have seen this paining so many times I did not think it was the same artist.

Comment by: Mick on 21st May 2012 at 12:32

Thanks Cathy B.
I used to see him coming out of a house regularly near the main entrance to Dickinson's bottlers, and assumed he lived there.
My mistake.

Comment by: Alan on 19th July 2012 at 19:59

Interesting the 66 Darlington Street East reference.I was born and bred at 64 which we occupied 1930/50 Fergusons lived at 66 all that time. I am ashamed to sdmit I've never heard of Walder although I admire the painting.

Comment by: Bernadette on 30th July 2023 at 07:56

I have the original water colour of this I bought this from a picture framing shop at Pemberton , it was advertised in the local paper saying his artwork was up for sale , glad I bought these

Comment by: winnie on 30th July 2023 at 17:32

Name Harry Walder
Death Age 82
Birth Date 12 Aug 1909
Registration Date Jul 1992
Registration district Wigan
Inferred County Greater Manchester

Comment by: winnie on 30th July 2023 at 17:35

Name Harry Walder
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 12 Aug 1909
Residence Date 1939
Address 69 Manchester Road
Residence Place Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Occupation Steel Rolling Mill Cutter Name Harry Walder
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 12 Aug 1909
Residence Date 1939
Address 69
Residence Place Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire, EnglandOccupation Steel Rolling Mill Cutter
Household Members (Name) Gender
Harry Walder Male
Constance Walder
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