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Situated in The Grove just off Ince Green Lane. There were 3 houses just to the left of the pub and the infamous Mickey Dalton lived in one of them. What a character.

Not far from Ince Railway Station. On the opposite side of Ince Green Lane, to Raven Street. Florence. Did your grandparents' live in Raven Street? If so they would be neighbours to my grandmother, Mrs Mary Short. She died in 1950, age eighty seven years.

My friend Phil from Wigan Little Theatre ran this pub at one time, although I didn't know him then. I remember it from childhood days as my friend Christine lived across the road in Raven Street and her Auntie kept Whittaker's Shop nearby.

Florence. I wasn't using my noggin. It is most likely that you are a married lady, therefore the question should have been addressed to your husband. I apologize.

yes ronnie did come from docks

The old Headquarters of Rose Bridge, many happy days and nights spent in there. Sunday afternoons were superb if you wasn't in by 12.15 you had no chance of a seat. What a great pub that was.

a smashing little pub

Irene. You seem to know this area well. Florence relates to her husband coming from the Docks. I remember many years ago that in that particular area, an area was referred to as the Via Docks, or a name similar. Do you know why it was so called? It always intrigued me, regarding how the name originated.

I used to live there between
80-85 ,beltin

Albert, it was actually The VIADUCTS, presumably because of the bridges that were under the railway line on the Wigan to Manchester line, but we always called it the VIREDOCKS. The two streets down there, Raven Street and Farmer Street, held a lot of poverty and I can recall looking down Farmer Street from the church bridge on a Winters evening of fog and frost and it looked almost Dickensian. There were some smashing people down there as well as a few "characters"! A vanished world, Albert.

hi irene you hit the nail on the head about the dickensian feeling sometimes in the mid 50si would wk up farmer st we lived next to your aunty peggys turnleft past the gas lamp on the corner of florrie burns the down under the railway bridgewhere the first buiding you came across was the outside toilets we used to play behind these as the ground was built up int a hump but the point of this is on awinters morning the mistused to gather obove the remains of the canal spur and when it was quiet it gave you a feeling the time had stopped hope this makes sense

hi florence ronnie is my cousin ihope he and you are well does he still keep pidgeonshe was always happiest in the pens cheching them regards jim

My mum and dad used to owned this pub, ann & terry, around 1985 i think..

My Grandparents had it in the 60/70s Anne and Charlie Dutton. My earliest memories are being in the pub and great people in there aswell proper characters