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Is it the top of Greenough st Regie Suttons shop on the right.

could it be the bottom of dicconson st,the chimney in the background could be john england,s also there was a church at the bottom of dicconson st and the shop on the right also looks like billy davie,s shop.

thanks jem have you any idea of the church i know its not st bills they didnt walk that far

Don't know if I am right Tony,but if it's Greenogh st it would be Whit Monday where all the local R.C churches walked

Stephen is correct by saying Dicconson St, it is Bill Davies' shop also known as the Square Deal shop, they will be coming down from St John's hall.

thanks jem i thought that

This is very confusing. Could be either; though I tend to think it's the top of Greenough St. There was a chimney in the old mill, that became Calderbanks scrap yard. It was pulled down in the 1950s I think. Plus if you look this is pre that time; old gas lamps. Also Diccinson St did not run down hill. The street opposite does. Just a thought.

Wrong shape for John Englands (Rylands Mill) chimney.
That was short straight & stubby ;o)

Seems that you are correct Jem, having compared this other photo of St Patrick's walking day (in Album contents - Walking Days,) the statues are the same, so top of Greenhough St it is.

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IS THE STATUE ST JOHN?

It is St Patricks statue,and I think it is Diccinson St mainly because of the big building on the left which was a church.Also Greenough st had a huge slope downwards and this seems fairly flat.
Another great picture Glenys.

The Methadist church at the top of Greenough st stood in this position but was blown up in second W.W.so was later rebuilt probably not as high as the previous church,The only bomb to land on Wigan in this war so I am led to believe.

it must be dicconson st the church on the left is the wesleyen church if you look in places at standishgate the church is there the windows look the same.behind the statue on the photo if the leaves around the statue were not there you would see shops then the wesleyen school then st john,s church hall which was also used for the school dinners. the shops were the scholl shoe shop,and gordons gents barber,s i lived at no 12 next door to another shoe shop which was directly opposite st johns hall we were the last family to move out prior to demolition in 1971.great photo gleny,s have you anymore of this area

The Wesleyan church stood back from the pavement behind iron railings unlike the houses next to it which fronted onto the pavement. (see phots of this church in the Album-contents-Places-Standishgate.) Jem Glover is correct in saying it is the Greenhough St Methodist Mission on the left of the photo as this fronts directly onto the pavement along with the houses. I too thought it was Dicconson St until I compared the photos in the Album.

Yes if you look at those pictures the evidence is overwhelming,although you could see a similiarity to Reg Suttons.Its a crying shame that they had to knock such fantastic buildings down.

The shop appears to belong to Messrs Santus selling Coats, Gowns, Quilts and Rugs. There must be an entry in some local trade directory for this company. I think that it is probably a forerunner of Reg Sutton and the procession group are turning right at the top of Greenough Street to go down Scholes.

If this was Diccinson st on a whit Monday walking day St Pat's would you be turning right to continue your journey to Greenough st.

Art you are right john england,s chimney was not tapered like the chimney in this photo,so on that basis it can,t be dicconson st.what is more confusing though is if it is greenough st at what is now known as scholes crossing looking down towards where calderbanks scrap yard used to be the road appears to be flat? i cant think of any more chimney,s in this area in the 1960,s great photo though.

I would date this photo 1920s or 30s

I think this photo was taken at te top of Market Street and the shop on the right is now Thomas Cooks.

Knew I had it right! This is definately the top of Greenough Street! My aunt states, the church was there, then bombed!!!! The chimney , was before the the 1950's! The chimney was Calderbannks Mill. The other Tony had it right. There was definately a chimney, just before the rugby ground. It was demolished in the 1950's.

My mother in law is 90 and remembers that Reggie Suttons was previously Santus,s and Philipps chemist was next to it farther up Scholes.

Bill this picture is at the top of Greenough st, Lived in this area for years, shop was Reggie Suttons, further round after an entry was the chemist,I could easily have walked round this area blindfolded thats how positive i am.

It is definitely St Patrick holding the shamrock. I would recognise him anywhere - especially in the church at the side of the altar. The walk is heading back home up Greenough St and back to the parish.
( I dont know any of the people - bit before my time!!!**)

None of the parishes walked along Dicconson St in that direction. After assembly on the Market Square the route was across Mesnes St., Upper Dicconson St., Dicconson Terrace, Standishgate and into Powell St.